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- From: kathomas@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Karl Thomas)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: Why are europeans dumb enough to buy amigas?
- Date: 16 Mar 1996 12:09:52 -0700
- Organization: University of Denver, Math/CS Dept.
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- kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk (Alan L.M. Buxey) writes:
-
- >Karl Thomas posted the following:
-
- >: minute Amiga users say "We don't need fast processors" and the next minute
- >: you're bragging about Vapor-PowerAmiga.
-
- >bragging? no, we are simply able to throw the sad "Your CPU isnt fast"
- >argument straight back at last.
-
- Not yet, not until '97 at the earliest. Seeing how there still isn't
- even an Alpha version of the OS, early '97 is a bit optimistic. Within 9
- months of the P-Macs introduction there were already alpha versions of
- the OS. Within 3 months there were already development tools. By the time
- the p_Macs were introduced there were already 30 native apps and other
- apps that weren't native had native plug-ins.
-
- >: Right/ What Web Browser for the Amiga supports frames, JavaScript, Java,
- >: ShockWave, RealAudio, a VRML broswer, cookies, and the myriad of other
- >: Netscape plug-ins.
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- >exactly......the browser has many hacks that allow it to do
- >this.....Netscape doesnt do it.
-
- JavaScript and now Java are built directly into the browser as well as
- cookies.
-
- >not everyone is buying those systems for a start.....the user base is
- >still 486's in the main. And quake isnt even out, so stop trying to use
- >it as an argument. Fact is, game for game, the Amiga actually NEEDS less
- >resources to do the same job.
-
- You don't have anything to compare high-end Mac and PC's to. There aren't
- any Amiga games with the resolution and fps of Descent on a P-Mac. There
- aren't any games that have 640x480 non-interlaced 8-bit and 16-bit color
- graphics with 16-bit stereo active panning sound on the Amiga.
-
- >: You're bragging about this? For $1300 you can get a PowerMac 6116 with
- >: 8Megs of RAM, a 500Mb Hard Drive, a good quality 14" monitor, a modem, a CD-ROM
- >: drive, and loads of software
-
- >"quality" and " 14" " are not designed to go into the same sentence.
-
- Actually you can get a 15" monitor for about $20 more third party, if you
- go through a catalog reseller.
-
- >and so what about LOADS of software? most of it will be pack-in crap
- >that you'll never run more than once. and the modem will be an outdated
- >14.4 that probably succeeds more 12000 connections than 14400.
-
- I run ClarisWorks all the time. It's fast, has all the features that most
- people ever need and takes up only 3 Megs of hard drive space (application,
- spell checker, thesaurus, converters, and communication tools) and runs
- well in less than 2 Megs of free ram.
-
- >: get a dx/2-66 with all of the hardware you named for less than $1300 and
- >: you would have a much faster system. Just look in Computer Shopper
- >: sometimes.
-
- >faster CPU, not faster system.
-
- Hmm, the graphics are faster, the calculations are faster, and the
- hardware is faster. Run some graphic apps on the Amiga and see which one
- is faster.
-
-
- >: A dx/2-66 doesn't creep along at all. But if a dx/2-66 creeps, an Amiga
- >: must run backwards.
-
- >it runs back whilst going forwards.....multitasking you know ;)
-
- That describes the Amiga perfectly - staying in one place for the past
- four years.
-
-
- >--
- >- (c) Alan Postings Ltd - A division of Alans(tm) Corporate body(tm) :-)
- >Date: Fri Mar 15 13:36:25 GMT 1996 Issue:01/00/00 NOT to be carried on M.S.N.!
- > ** Confidential! ** {begin 644 address.txt} Work it out...
- >{D:'1T<#HO+W=W=RYS=7-S97@N86,N=6LO57-E<G,O:V-C:3$*}{ end}Replies Appreciated :)
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